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My discipline will beat your intellect

Why you should focus less on your Klout score and more on your Karma

Over the last few months Klout has gained more popularity among Indian entrepreneurs. I have noticed not only more invitations on my facebook account for Klout but also more questions on Klout score optimization. Most entrepreneurs who are not technical (have a sales, business development or operations background) seem to be increasingly interested in increasing their Klout score in the hope that it will improve their chances of gaining customers or meeting investors.  It actually does neither. While Klout has its place in scoring social media engagement, it is fairly narrow in its measure of influence is my opinion.

As an early indicator of future success I always look at developers as the early adopters before Marketing and Sales professionals. I have never found marketers tell or show me something a developer had not shown me a few days, weeks or months ago. That’s not to say they are late adopters, but my feeling is that someone has to have developed it for the marketer to know about it. That someone is a developer. Developers tend to talk to other developers to get feedback and perspective first, which is why the early adopter set for most new and innovative products are developers.

Most developers have been focused on increasing their Hacker News Karma for a few years now and not their Klout score.

I have found that the single biggest source of traffic and converted users for either my blog, or two of the previous web apps that I was developing was Hacker News. More than a post on any of the top media blogs in the US.

So, if I were a marketer or sales person who was a founder, and am looking to get early adopters, meet with potential investors, etc. I would spend more time on HN, than Twitter, Facebook or LinkedIn.

Guest post from Neil Patel: 5 reasons you ought to attend NASSCOM Product Conclave

 

Neil Patel
Neil Patel

 

Neil Patel writes a very popular blog Quick Sprout and he was in India a few weeks ago for the NASSCOM product conclave. He wrote a post about his experience at the NASSCOM product conclave as a guest post for this blog.

A few weeks ago I had the privilege of speaking at NASSCOM Product Conclave in Bangalore, India. And boy what can I say other than it was one of the best conferences I’ve ever been to.

The people were friendly, the audience was very receptive to the advice they were receiving, and everyone was helping each other out so they could increase their odds of succeeding as an entrepreneur.

Here are 5 reasons you ought to attend NASSCOM Product Conclave next year.

1.     Knowledge – even as a speaker, I learned a lot from the attendees. I actually sat down with over 30 companies and gave them feedback on their product and business. At the same time they were teaching me some cool tricks on how I could grow my business. One company shared the results of 11 a/b tests they ran on their pricing page and gave me some ideas on what we should do at KISSmetrics.

2.     Giving back – unlike most events NASSCOM is fully put on by volunteers. Every single person there who helped make the event come together, did it all for free. Because of this the conference had a different vibe from the get go, as everyone there was in the giving mood. Attendees gave back by helping other attendees with their business for free.

3.     Actionable insights – NASSCOM doesn’t just let speakers speak on whatever they want. Instead they make sure they are speaking on advice that is actionable. This means you’ll be able to walk away from a session and have key takeaways on what you need to do for your business.

4.     Comfort – it’s very rare that you feel at home when you’re at a conference. At NASSCOM, not only did I feel at home, but people went above and beyond to make me enjoy the NASSCOM experience. From picking me up from the airport to offering to take me around the city, people were always there to help me out.

5.     Food – don’t you hate it when you go to conferences and all they have to eat is boxed lunches? I know I hate box lunches. Well, you won’t experience that here. They have all types of foods and best of all, everything is freshly made and isn’t boxed. You can pick what you want right when the food comes out from the kitchen.

Hopefully you go to NASSCOM Product Conclave next year as it is one of the best events you’ll ever attended… both as a speaker and attendee.

I am thankful for…

My wife, who plays the role of mom, dad, friend, console-er, shoulder-to-cry-on, lead investor and moderator to all my tantrums, antics, and diva-like tendencies.

My oldest daughter, who despite being so much of an overachiever, compared to what I had achieved even 15 years after she’s achieved them, is still humble, personable and thoughtful.

My son, who is quite possibly among the nicest brother I know (than I was for sure), still finds enough time and energy to keep the family laughing all the time.

My twin girls, who despite being on the receiving end of 90+% of my discipline, rigor and hard-work have the tenacity to keep forgiving me and still wake up every morning at 530 am and remind me that they love my hugs.

My mom, who realized her son is not the superstar engineer she always wished for, and rarely finds time to call her and just ask how she’s doing, still finds time frequently to call me after lunch to ask if I have eaten well.

My dad, who has always trusted my gut and instinct more than I have trusted my own and has never questioned a single decision I have made of which a significant number affected him sometimes adversely.

My sister, who puts up with all my constant bragging, covers up for all my short comings and blatant-overstatements-of-the-fact, with “yeah I know, but if he wanted to do that he’s the only guy who could”.

My brother-in-law and nieces who having been forced to state that I am their best friend and uncle still humor me with their constant boosting of my ego.

My friends (all of my facebook, twitter and offline ones are included no exception) who make it easier for me to hang in there for another day.

Happy thanksgiving all.

Who should do the selling in a startup? Or “Is sales a team responsibility”?

In the early days (<10 customers) of a startup, the founder typically is expected to do most all of the selling to get the early adopters. This helps solve the problem of understanding the customer’s buying process which aids in hiring the right sales person for your startup.

If the startup is founded by several people together, I’d advocate a single person running and managing the entire sales process. While its true that in a startup everyone’s selling and every person is trying to help sales, there should be one person who dreams, sleeps and eats getting customers.

The main reason for having one person for the role is accountability. That person’s sole purpose of being is to get customers and track their progress towards that end. If you are a solo founder, I’d recommend you hiring technical consultants or contract people to develop and architect or build your product, but do the initial sales (or customer development) yourself.

So the question is who is that one person who should be responsible for selling when you have multiple co-founders?

Usually I hear a variation of “My co-founder likes to talk a lot, so he’s taken responsibility for sales”, or “My co-founder is a better developer than I am, so I took responsibility for getting customers”.

For most parts I think that is a sufficient enough filter. If you have an inclination towards selling or are not as good at some other function, you ought to be helping play a critical role and I cannot think of a more critical role than getting early customers.

Even if you are the deemed “sales person” in your startup, you will realize quickly that you need more than 1 person to help you sell.

Sales people are (initially) mistrusted by customers who believe the salesperson’s sole purpose is to a) sell them stuff they dont want to buy and b)lie to overstate the capabilities and value of a product.

So the best situation to be in is to split the roles into 2 – the deal maker and the solution architect. The deal maker is still responsible for the entire process end-to-end. They will have to bring in the solution architect as required to help with the product aspects of the sales process and be responsible for the technical feasibility.

When you are ready to hire your first sales person here are some tips on filtering sales resumes for the right hustlers, process jocks and relationship sales professionals.

Why you should not outsource your initial sales efforts

Most technical founders are not comfortable with the sales process or the disciple of selling. They tend to treat it as beneath themselves and “sleazy”. Given that most entrepreneurs I interact with are engineers, I usually walk them through an engineer’s approach towards selling, which tends to mirror the agile development process they are familiar with (more about this in a later post).

Many entrepreneurs do try to sell, and not seeing quick success, come to a conclusion that they should outsource their sales efforts to an “expert”. Usually this is after they have exhausted their initial contacts and get frustrated with the constant rejection that comes with sales, or after they have finished tapping into their entire list of first level contacts who could possibly be a customer. They tend to be more comfortable “convincing” people they know well rather than “selling” to people they dont know at all. Which is why I ask them to “dig their well before they are thirsty“.

Without sales there is no business.

Without sales there are no customers. No customers means what you are building is a side project.

Without sales there is no revenue. No revenue means what you are working on is an unsustainable venture.

I have heard of enough companies who have died because they could not sell, but rarely heard of companies that died because they could not develop or build a solution that was sold.

To me, sales is the headlights to your business. I would never recommend outsourcing your sales function in your startup.

Even large companies I know in other areas besides technology, outsource manufacturing, engineering, finance or customer service, but rarely outsource sales or marketing.

I dont consider selling via channel partners as outsourcing your sales. That usually means you have to “sell” and convince your channel partners.

There are 3 reasons why I dont like sales outsourcing.

1. You dont “own” the customer and dont get direct customer feedback. In the initial days of your startup, its absolutely important to have direct customer connections, feedback and input. Even after you grow larger, customer connections are the biggest source of innovative ideas. Without direct customer access you will get a warped view of the real problems and pain points they have, which results in a sub optimal solution.

2. It is very hard to predict predict consistent closure of deals and commit to financial milestones. When you outsource sales, the outsourced company has the eyes and ears on the ground to understand what moves deals, whose budgets are cut and when deals might happen. That information is critical for you to plan your quarterly projections. Without that information you will also find it hard to understand how to allocate resource towards projects and features the engineering team should be working on.

3. Even if sales is “outsourced” most outsourcing vendors will require your help to constantly tweak your positioning, handle customer objections, change pricing, etc. Even after 5+ years at a large software company with over 500+ in a direct sales function, I found us to be constantly changing messaging and positioning each quarter to keep up with customer trends.

Can some parts of the sales process (like the initial lead generation) be outsourced instead of the entire sale process? Possibly. If you feel that the biggest challenge for you is to get the initial meetings and you get a sense that after your get those appointments you are able to move the sales process forward, then I would suggest you look to getting help from a firm that sets up appointments, or does targeted lead generation.

Why I am investing in 500 Startup’s India fund

Quick post since I got many emails and calls from folks asking why we (Vinita and I) are not a part of Indian Angel network or Mumbai angels but are LP’s in 500 startups India fund announced today.

We like Dave, Paul, Pankaj and their team. A lot.

We like their hands on approach to helping startups as opposed to just giving money and asking for quarterly reports.

We are thrilled they move fast and help entrepreneurs by making decisions quickly.

That’s it.

We are totally excited to participate in their India fund.

Why do companies buy anything from B2B startups?

Yesterday I had a chance to talk with a software entrepreneur who has built a security product that’s primarily sold to mid-sized and larger companies. Over 8 months have gone into the development and he has been able to get fewer than 5 customers for the product. Surprisingly he’s been able to get enough interest from investors who have provided early funding to the tune of several hundreds of thousands of dollars. He has been able to also generate lots of interest from partners but that has not translated into customer sales. Given his developer  background, he was keen to talk about sales and how to generate some initial traction in the market.

Here is what I have learned from all my initial startup selling in the B2B space (i.e. startups selling anything – software, hardware, services, juice bars, etc. to other companies, not consumers).

There are only 2 reasons why companies buy from startups – The person buying has a very good relationship with the entrepreneur, or the person buying has a dying pain that she feels can be solved by the startup’s solution.

That’s it.

This is dramatically different from why they buy from Cisco, Office Depot or any other large company – where politics, budgets, executive management preferences or any other of over 100 factors also come into play.

Lets drill down into both those reasons.

I have personally only been able to sell the first 10 or so first customers for all my software companies through relationships that I built earlier. Which is why I always advocate digging you well before you are thirsty. Most of the software that I have built (B2B) did solve a problem, but I found that it was never an “immensely-horrible, I’ll-die-if-I-dont-fix-it” kinda pain. I avoided those because I did not have as much confidence in my ability to solve that type of problem since the scrutiny & pressure of “must-work-or-you’re-dead or this-better-work-or-you’re-out” causes buggy software.

So I focused on building relationships with key people (that usually took a few months), without me talking much about my product or service. It was purely to help the other person who I wanted to be friends with.

When you build a strong relationship, you will find people are more willing to forgive bugs, try unproven software or even give a no-name startup a chance.

Given my engineering background, I have a “formula” that I believe that will help you understand relationship building.

Relationships = Time + Trust + Mutual interest.

In this case, + is not addition, but an operator. More about this formula in a later post, but the summary is building a relationship takes time (quality not quantity) spent together, building trust by small commitments you deliver on and mutual interests you share with the other person.

The only other reason larger companies buy from small startups is that they are in a huge pain and they believe startup has a unique solution, offering or product to solve that pain in the fastest possible time. I emphasize “they believe” because they are really not sure yet since they have not built a relationship with that individual.

Relationships trump everything in sales. Everything. She who has the relationship wins.

Which is why you are better off getting a referral from one of your customers (who you have a good relationship with presumably) to another potential prospect (who they have a good relationship with).

So before you start you own B2B entrepreneurial venture, build relationships.

Should I outsource the sales function at my technology startup?

I am thinking of writing a series on technology sales, given that selling is my first functional love and I enjoy it more than anything else. (There, I admit it, and yes, more than development even though I am an “engineer” by education). So the next few posts will be focused exclusively on selling for entrepreneurs.

Yesterday I had a friend who came over to get some advice on his startup. 6 years into the business he’d built a $200K+ annual consulting company and had over 30 customers for whom he’d implemented various projects. The average sale was about $20K and since the company was fairly small, (15 people) the CEO and founder was the primary sales person.

Most of their lead generation was relegated to speaking at important conferences and events, after which they’d get a few interested people who were keen to leverage their expertise for implementing a project.

His question was around a proposal he got from another company, which was founded by a big-company sales person who’d built a good network of customers and prospects. The company was offering to help my friend outsource his sales and generate customers. In exchange they were asking for 30% (starting point) of the sale as their commission.

To my friend this seemed on the high side. He’d heard numbers like 10% or even 15%, but 30% seemed large.

So his question was “Is this the right number? Or should I negotiate a lower commission”?

We had an hour to chat about it. I was most surprised he never asked me the question “Should I outsource my sales”? Since I have been running the Microsoft accelerator for the last few months, I have refrained from answering questions I think entrepreneurs should ask, instead narrowly focusing on their specific question and giving them options they should consider or a framework they should look, at to evaluate their options.

Lets do some simple math, I told him. If you are looking to make $200K a year from a sales person, given that your ASP (Average selling price) is about $20K, you will need 10 (roughly) deals for them to make their quota. Since the projects they were selling were fairly complex in nature, the sales person they needed to hire would have to be someone who understood both the customer’s industry, the value of technology to that industry and build good relationships within that industry. So, a fresh out of school grad going for $10K – $15K (in India thats what they make annually) wont cut it.

He needed to hire someone who was a consultative sales person who could not only do the lead generation and selling but also some amount of initial “scoping” of the project. In India most of these people make about $40K annually. These folks would have about 8-10 years of experience (or more) and would have implemented several projects or performed the role of “solution architect”, at their previous role. About 60% of the annual pay of the sales person would be paid as base salary and 40% of it as commission on sale.

Since most of my friend’s customers were in India and primarily in the south, customer travel was going to be fairly minimal, which would cost about $2.5K annually at the high end. Assuming that 50% of his customers were outside the city he lived in and the average customer took 2 trips to close and some trips required 2 people (including my friend who would also help with the sales), the cost of travel was about $2.5K we determined.

To generate leads in a consistent manner, the sales person would have to supplement the speaking engagements my friend was using for lead generation with some events, and a few other techniques, which we estimated would cost another $2.5K.

So in total to generate $200K in business, my friend would have to spend about $45K in hiring, managing and helping his sales person.

Now these numbers are unique to India, but the model holds for the US as well. You might have to multiply each number by 5 to get to the US equivalent, but that’s the norm. Approximately 22.5% of his target or sales was going towards the sales person.

Realistically, the outsourced sales person asking for 30% seemed fairly reasonable.

Of course, I warned that my friend would still have to be deeply involved in the process so the “transparent costs” of the sale would increase the paid commission.

There are a few numbers that can change this equation dramatically. One is the average selling price, second the annual salary the sales person makes and third the target (quota), but by and large this is in the ballpark.

“Wasted nearly a year evaluating different markets” for a billion $ outcome at Meraki

Today Meraki announced its acquisition by Cisco. Doug Leone has a great post up. You have to read it in its entirety, but here’s the money quote.

The biggest challenge came early on in deciding where to aim the product. We wasted nearly a year evaluating different markets: entrepreneurial building owners, ad-supported Wi-Fi, retail, SMEs, large corporations, even the developing world. We eventually settled on SME, for product fit and speed of revenues. From there Meraki took off.\

They built a world class product, with a crack team from MIT and still “wasted” a year on getting to the right market. For a $Billion+ exit.

Always be an individual contributor as well

Most of the entrepreneurs I meet and share thoughts with, tend not to be engineers. Or at least not practicing developers, marketers, sales people or business development individuals. This is consistent with the anatomy of the Indian technology entrepreneur, who is typically male, between the ages of 29 and 40, has about 2-10+ years of experience and had been an individual contributor “several years ago”.

I read the quotes by multiple folks in the piece shelf life of an engineer in technology . They consistent theme is one of constant learning, which most of us are probably aware of. Ignore the age bias that’s blatantly obvious in the piece for a few minutes, which is what most of the 250+ comments are focused on.

Two things stand out: (1) Ferose’s quote on “I can’t be just a manager, I have to be technically hands-on.” and

Ravi ” In the first five years, the employee is a technical contributor. In the next five, he or she moves on to become a team leader or an architect , understanding the P&L (profit & loss) requirements of the company. Subsequently , the employee takes on much stronger leadership responsibilities”.

From what I have learned, there’ no choice but for every level of individual to be “hands-on” and play the role of an individual contributor as well at a startup.

If you are an engineer, you cant just be focused on hiring and managing your engineering team (however small or large it is). You have to pick up a few pieces of the puzzle and solve them yourself. Which might mean deploying, developing and shipping parts of your software.

If you are a marketer, then not copy writing or doing your own SEO, or running your ad campaigns is a disaster in the making.

If you are a sales person, and if you are not doing cold calls or opening new doors to customers each week, you will find it extremely hard to direct and motivate the team.

Most founders who come from larger companies have not been been doing any individual contributor roles for several years. So the reorientation is very hard on them. They find it hard to do things they did a few years ago and since in most every area the specifics have changed so dramatically over the last few years, the adjustments are hard.

The best way to do this is to keep 30% of your time each week to have a personal accomplishment.

What I have found is the the FIRST thing I do each Monday on my weekly to-do list is to identify one deliverable that I will work on to complete without anyone else’s help.

Over the last few weeks  it was working on website copy and mockups for the new design. Over the next few weeks it is cold calling multiple prospects for making some inroads for a few of our startups. The weeks of Dec 15-30 is mostly going to be spent on writing new pieces of our Borg’s UI using Twitter bootstrap (which is surprisingly easy to pickup).

So on your quest to be a leader and entrepreneur dont forget to be a doer as well.